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December 8, 2014 at 9:15 am #724vinzMember
Hello all,
what do you think about extending the map with known (potential) radioactive sources.
Groups like “natural”, “civil”, “energy”, “science”, “military” may make sense.
Best would be to user their official names, so one can reference to public news.I don’t know where to get a GPS list. Maybe a public call is needed.
Vinz
December 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm #730AllyParticipantI think that’s a great idea. There must be lists of locations somewhere – the civil ones anyway. The military ones might be harder to plot – but we could plot the main ones manually.
In the UK for instance, all nuclear weapons are stored in Scotland, just outside Glasgow, the largest city (as far away from London as possible!) at a place called RNAD Coulport (Royal Naval Armament Depot Coulport).
Wikipedia has a huge list of all the civil ones from International Atomic Agency data, but they don’t have coordinates for plotting a map. Google time!
There are some pretty good mapping products/overlays for Google maps that allow categories of locations, searching by location, filtering, etc.
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December 8, 2014 at 5:50 pm #733AllyParticipantHere’s a list of civil Nuclear power stations worldwide, from IAEA data, but not sure how recently it’s been updated.
https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?dsrcid=579353#rows:id=1
And here’s a list of civil facilities in the USA licenced to handle radioactive material – Uranium mine/mills, reclamation, etc;
December 8, 2014 at 6:50 pm #737uRADMonitorKeymasterI think this idea was first formulated by Peter ( https://www.uradmonitor.com/?open=11000026 ) . What he said was to add an overlay with the nuclear plants on the uRADMonitor map, with a descriptive icon. To this I would add the option of having a switch, to toggle such overlay on/off.
The good thing here is such information is publicly available: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Germany (this is an example for Germany).
We only need to build a list with Name, country, city and GPS coordinates and this can be easily integrated.
December 8, 2014 at 8:14 pm #742richardp61ParticipantDon’t forget there may be civil nuclear reactors and other nuke sites that are not operational power plants e.g. research reactors, decommissioned power plants, fuel reprocessing plants etc
Richard
December 9, 2014 at 1:06 am #753Paul.PParticipantHi Ally this link http://climateviewer.com/3D/ might be of some use to you.
Have a look at the nuclear layers.
Hope it helps.Paul
December 9, 2014 at 4:00 am #757TSLParticipantIn Australia we haven’t really done anything nuclear past a couple of small reactors for science & medical in Sydney at Lucas Heights.
That being said we have a waste dump in central & northern Australia…
and some of the biggest uranium mines on the planet…
So while high level radiation from a nuclear accident may not be a concern, the potential exists for dust storms to bring uranium into populated areas.
regards
Tim
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December 10, 2014 at 11:24 am #824LarsParticipantPerhaps this info can be found in OpenStreetMap. If not, that may be a better place to add it.
I know other projects use only specific data from OSM for their purpose, like this company http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/113512357 has a tag: payment:bitcoin=yes, and then some project show a map of everyone accepting bitcoin payment on their site.
May 4, 2015 at 11:24 am #1784uanemeParticipantI was also having this thought. I did a little searching and came across this
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.nl/2011/03/nuclear-power-plants-earthquake.html
http://maptd.com/map/earthquake_activity_vs_nuclear_power_plants/http://mashable.com/2011/08/18/google-maps-weather/ what about adding a button that can toggle on and off the weather layer? (wind directions and rain)
I also came across a googlemaps nuclear powerplant layer with pinned info about the year it was build, the amount of generated power etc.
Can’t find it right now but i will add a link as soon as i find it again.
EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/interactive/2012/mar/08/nuclear-power-plants-world-mapAnd i’m sure there will also be a list of militairy sites where nukes are stored or suspected to be stored. And a list of sites where nuclear waste is being stored?
combining all of the above could then paint a nice picture if/how uRAD readings are related to weather and nearby (or not so nearby) powerplants.
Not sure if there is also data of radiation from outer space (sunspots), ozon layer, and the earths magnetic field. But I guess there are not enough monitors online yet to actually make sense of that data on the larger scale.
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May 4, 2015 at 2:18 pm #1786uRADMonitorKeymasterVery useful, I’ll see how this can be implemented.
For a start, we’d need a list of coordinates for all the extra layers including the NPPs or other special sites. CSV format would work (as I can add it easily to a dedicated DB):
name, description, latitude, longitude
May 4, 2015 at 8:37 pm #1787cristianst85 (nox)ModeratorHello everyone. This is my first message here.
This is a very good idea to have additional layers on the map, like nuclear power plants, hazardous places (e.g. Chernobyl), radioactive waste management facilities, natural (e.g. mines), etc.;
As a matter of fact I’ve already started to aggregate data about npps from various sources. Afterwards I was thinking to release it on GitHub.
My data structure is something more complex. SQL table structure below:
SELECT
nuclear_power_plants
.id
,
nuclear_power_plants
.name
,
nuclear_power_plants
.longitude
,
nuclear_power_plants
.latitude
,
nuclear_power_plants
.country
,
nuclear_power_plants
.status
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nuclear_power_plants
.type
,
nuclear_power_plants
.model
,
nuclear_power_plants
.built_start_year
,
nuclear_power_plants
.operational_from_year
,
nuclear_power_plants
.operational_to_year
FROMnuclear_power_plants
;Cristian S.
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May 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm #1805uanemeParticipanthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_reactors
In the upper right box are a few links to files exported as OSM, KML, GeoRSS, etc. maybe they can be used or converted? If googles own data can be used that would seem to be most ideal. Assuming that Googles data is correct and up to date…
What is harder to find is info about:
– where radioactive waste is being stored.
– where nukes are stored. (do stored nukes actually radiate?) There are a few known missile bunkers. But only very few known storage bunkers. And then there is still the government that denies that there are still nukes being stored in the suspected bunkers.
– routes where radioactive source and waste material is being transportedIt’s a big challenge to actually figure out where radiation is coming from. When a powerplant leaks radiation they will always lie and cover up to try and stop panic, avoid claims, etc. And what part is natural radiation. This makes it very hard to sketch a picture of what is actually true.
May 6, 2015 at 10:52 am #1842uRADMonitorKeymasterHi Nox & nice to see you here! Your work might be exactly what we need here, and having it on github is a good idea as others could easily contribute to keep it up to date.
uaneme, I am unable to locate the links you mentioned. A few more sources include:
http://enipedia.tudelft.nl/wiki/Main_Page
with the data accessible via http://enipedia.tudelft.nl/wiki/Special:SparqlExtension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_stations (somewhat better structured)
https://www.pfenninger.org/posts/mapping-the-worlds-nuclear-power-plants/
http://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/n/nuclear-power-plant-world-wide.htmMay 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm #1854uanemeParticipantI meant these links:
Map all coordinates using OSM
https://tools.wmflabs.org/osm4wiki/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=en&article=List_of_nuclear_reactorsMap up to 200 coordinates using Bing
https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport?article=List_of_nuclear_reactors&redir=bingExport all coordinates as KML
https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport?article=List_of_nuclear_reactorsExport all coordinates as GeoRSS
http://maps.bing.com/GeoCommunity.asjx?action=retrieverss&mkt=en&mapurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fkmlexport%3Farticle%3DList_of_nuclear_reactorsExport all coordinates as GPX
http://tools.tripgang.com/kml2gpx/http%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fkmlexport%3Farticle%3DList_of_nuclear_reactors?gpx=1Map all microformatted coordinates
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmicroform.at%2Fgeo%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_nuclear_reactorsPlace data as RDF
http://microform.at/?type=hcard-rdf&url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_reactorsAccording to the wiki those links should contain a list of coordinates of (nearly) all nuclear reactors. I’m now playing around with it but i’m not quiet getting the expected results yet. 🙂
May 6, 2015 at 5:27 pm #1856uanemeParticipantI’m trying to figure out how that page is generated, or where it takes the location data of all the reactors.
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